I'm talking about the police and worldly court system as well as the congregation playing complementary roles within the parameters of theocratic order.
Spike Tassel
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two witness ruling ?
by KAYTEE inif a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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by inbetween injust have a question,.
when you found out about things regarding the wts, maybe on the internet, on this side or another, or you had serious doubts by yourself, did you talk to somebody ?
maybe an elder or a good friend ?.
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Spike Tassel
Lady Liberty's Post 1 is at http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/109978/1/Its-High-Time-I-Introduce-Myself
It is found by clicking on Lady Liberty, and looking at her Post History (at the top of the screen).
Lady Liberty's Post 2480 reminds me of 1 Corinthians 13, which I will key in from Jack J. Blanco's Clear Water paraphrase, as follows:—
8. The kind of selfless love that Christ had will never become obsolete, but one day prophesying will, as will the gift to speak in different languages, and even much of what we've learned.
9. The reason for this is simple. Our knowledge is not complete and our prophesying gives only a small glimpse of the future.
7. This kind of love believes in people. It is always full of hope, and it always takes what comes its way without complaint.
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two witness ruling ?
by KAYTEE inif a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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Spike Tassel
The New System is upon us, the governments and their agents will be gone, and the Bible (if accepted) really can change hearts.
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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...
by OnTheWayOut inlet's just stay hypothetical.
if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.
just assume that they use a p.o.
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Spike Tassel
Kissing each other and wearing make-up would be out of the question for these 2, I surmise. Besides, it's a perhaps permanently long-distance relationship and too informal, so why would they?
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by inbetween injust have a question,.
when you found out about things regarding the wts, maybe on the internet, on this side or another, or you had serious doubts by yourself, did you talk to somebody ?
maybe an elder or a good friend ?.
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Spike Tassel
Science isn't Perfect. So their date-setting may well need revision going forward. Scientists are as fallible as JWs or any other human, when we trust on our knowledge as though it were Perfect.
The reason for this simple. Our knowledge is not complete and our prophesying gives us only a small glimpse of the future. — 1 Corinthians 13:9, Blanco's Clear Water paraphrase.
When the end comes and God gives us complete knowledge of things, then that which is partial and incomplete will pass away. — 1 Corinthians 13: 10, Blanco.
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two witness ruling ?
by KAYTEE inif a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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Spike Tassel
All cases that have been investigated by a JC should have to make a mandatory filing, including video tape and transcriptions and legal counsel, just as any other legal proceedings, and published internally as case law. Those who disagree with the JC ruling (whether to disfellowhip or not, etc.) should all have the right and opportunity to appeal, and the means to do so. This appeal should be by an independent body made up of individuals not knowing either the JC members or those investigated or the witnesses or any of other participants in the case.
Those being investigated should be allowed the right to record the JC trial, including by video tape and transcriptions. The WT CD-rom and precedents (such as letters directing the elders, and material from the Flock book) should be fully available to all who are interested in being JWs or who are/ have been JWs at any time, including Defense and his counsel.
These are my recommendations.
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two witness ruling ?
by KAYTEE inif a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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Spike Tassel
Elders, MSs, and the rest of JWs need to be trained, with exams, as to proper mediation, counsel, and reform techniques and each of the steps of the 12-step approach, in the context of the Scriptural principles they are based on. The Scriptures are very clear on all the aspects of love, including reproof. Isaiah 48:17-18 and 2 Timothy 3:16-17 mention the benefits of learning and obeying Jehovah's counsel. At Hebrew 4:12 clearly indicates that one's heart CAN be reached, both by Jehovah God and those who apply sound methods, even as the world's methods are able. Training by Bible-principles should be mandated for those jailed as JWs as parto f their theocratic discipline.
I'm talking a mandatory personalized 12-step in order that the wrongdoer may be properly reformed and may be a benefit to both himself, his victims, and the community at large. It is community service based on free will gone awry.
A properly-held court trial [according to Romans 13 regarding anyone attending the KH and any JW of any description] should have its results applied at all KHs. After all, is it not the brothers in his faith that have the responsibility of helping him (and those he has affected) where he has shown himself clearly unable to do so himself?
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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...
by OnTheWayOut inlet's just stay hypothetical.
if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.
just assume that they use a p.o.
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Spike Tassel
or warm, but loyal ones, I suggest
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by inbetween injust have a question,.
when you found out about things regarding the wts, maybe on the internet, on this side or another, or you had serious doubts by yourself, did you talk to somebody ?
maybe an elder or a good friend ?.
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Spike Tassel
To Reniaa:— I see that you use the term "leaders", not from the NWT, but from other translations/ versions. Thank you for this clarification.
To Zid:— The age of human beings as a species is very much a matter of faith and supposition, regardless of the positions. After all, none of us has the continuous age to determine this matter. The angels, Jesus Christ, and Jehovah have this knowledge that we yet lack.
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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?
by Yizuman insource: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.
well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.
thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.
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Spike Tassel
Translation indicates meaning. Transliteration indicates letters of the alphabet. Even exact spelling does not indicate exact pronunciation, as we who use English know. Also, there are a variety of Hebrew dialects, and have been since the days of Jephthah. That's why there was the "shibboleth" test recorded at Judges 12:6. And, even if there had been a "standard" way to pronounce Jehovah's name, like a Queen's English, that too can change, just as the BBC has apparently changed its standard to "Estuary English".